Outrageous at AW

[torrentmike02]

First of all I am not the same person under the name Ward.

Secondly, I am very disappointed with AW. The moderator of this site has failed to attend to the bigger problem.

Okay, fair enough if you want to have me banned. Not that I care. However, there are more enough reason to ban the people, group creating the fake profiles. They are the core of the problem, not us.

So why are the fake profiles that have been around for months still up and running? Negative feedbacks are all over them. You want to run a site, you have to do a better job without buddy.

You gonna remove this thread too?

[sarahxxx]

First of all I am not the same person under the name Ward.

Secondly, I am very disappointed with AW. The moderator of this site has failed to attend to the bigger problem.

Okay, fair enough if you want to have me banned. Not that I care. However, there are more enough reason to ban the people, group creating the fake profiles. They are the core of the problem, not us.

So why are the fake profiles that have been around for months still up and running? Negative feedbacks are all over them. You want to run a site, you have to do a better job without buddy.

You gonna remove this thread too?

WOW...

When punters like you get a brain and not hide behind anonymous identities you will get some respect! untill then you will always be a joke.

Firstly you will have to understand that this site is NOTHING to do with AW

Sarah x x x

[xKatieBabyx]

You're preaching to the choir here. We ladies regularly report fake profiles and groups (which we can spot more accurate than you trust me!). Some get removed, others stay put. No idea why, that's just how AW deal with things. If you want to let the few bad eggs put you off the site them that Is Your prerogative, but for goodness sake please stop bleating about it here!

[Nova70]

First of all I am not the same person under the name Ward.

Secondly, I am very disappointed with AW. The moderator of this site has failed to attend to the bigger problem.

Okay, fair enough if you want to have me banned. Not that I care. However, there are more enough reason to ban the people, group creating the fake profiles. They are the core of the problem, not us.

So why are the fake profiles that have been around for months still up and running? Negative feedbacks are all over them. You want to run a site, you have to do a better job without buddy.

You gonna remove this thread too?

No I don't think your Ward actually but maybe Admin knows better, I think Ward is back though lol, as for getting rid of the fake profiles well negative feedback is not what's needed they have to be reported to AW, my concern is how easy it seems to do it over and over again using pretty much the same profile as before. I don't think AW is any worse or any better than other sites of this nature but it is now the biggest and best known and should be working harder on ways to solve these issues.

[torrentmike02]

Wife: Why do you think I have come back with the same name huh? So you think a name is more important than the topic discussed? I don't think so.

Katie: Obviously yours and others reporting has been in vain.

Nova: is the only person here that speak truthfully and without bias

Moderator: you do as you like. This is your site, not mine. I have raised my points and its time to move on.

[sarahxxx]

Wife: Why do you think I have come back with the same name huh? So you think a name is more important than the topic discussed? I don't think so.

A name is important to show who you are, it gives you credibility. Anybody can sign up to forums under different names and we have seen stupid acts of the person actually having conversations with themselves.

Even once banned it is easy to re join forums without detection, if your not stupid.

If you link to your AW profile then it gives you even more credibility if you have taken the time to fill out your profile and have feedback.

But if you don't want to be taken seriously and just want to be another anonymous person ranting, carry on as you are.

I have raised my points and its time to move on.

If only your points made sense, you fail to make a point when you have endless rants mid sentence.

As you and others feel so anti AW why don't you just leave it alone. There are plenty of other escort sites as well as girls with their own web site. Why keep going back to something that you have so many problems with. How stupid is that?

Sarah x x x

[Nova70]

Wife: Why do you think I have come back with the same name huh? So you think a name is more important than the topic discussed? I don't think so.

A name is important to show who you are, it gives you credibility. Anybody can sign up to forums under different names and we have seen stupid acts of the person actually having conversations with themselves.

Even once banned it is easy to re join forums without detection, if your not stupid.

If you link to your AW profile then it gives you even more credibility if you have taken the time to fill out your profile and have feedback.

But if you don't want to be taken seriously and just want to be another anonymous person ranting, carry on as you are.

I have raised my points and its time to move on.

If only your points made sense, you fail to make a point when you have endless rants mid sentence.

As you and others feel so anti AW why don't you just leave it alone. There are plenty of other escort sites as well as girls with their own web site. Why keep going back to something that you have so many problems with. How stupid is that?

Sarah x x x

Sarah I understand why you want us to use our AW usernames on forums but I'm going to try and explain why I and others don't. Imagine this scenario, I've visited a wg and very much enjoyed it and want to return however she does not look as stunning as her Photoshopped pictures and she's older than she states, as a punter I have an obligation to mention this even in a very enthusiastic positive review, the wg concerned may not be best pleased with my honesty and refuse my future attempts to book her, Sarah this has happened.

In my experience those punters who do use the same name are often guilty of writing fluffy reviews, if some are to be believed they've never had a bad punt and I can't believe that, I once clashed with such a person on another forum after I mentioned in a very positive review of mine that one of his favourites was probably about ten years older than she states.

Yes wgs tend to use their working names on forums but you and I both know that is partly as another form of advertising, I'm sure it doesn't happen on this forum but I'm willing to bet that on some forums wgs have actually taken bookings via the pm system. Can anyone who disagrees with anything you say on a forum take it any further than they can with me, I suppose if you display a phone number they could contact you that way but I think it's highly unlikely that someone is actually going to book you, come along, hand over the money and then instead of having sex use the time they've paid for to give you a piece of their mind.

When I'm done punting Sarah before shutting down my AW account I will send you a message so you can see who I am.

[Nova70]

I perhaps should have mentioned in my previous post that I'm very much a supporter of AW if anything it gives the punter more options to determine if an ad is genuine or not because of the interactive nature of the site and I've had many great experiences as a result of my membership, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't expect those who run AW to make things even better and pressure them to do so. Also worth remembering that wgs themselves suffer as a result of the fakers, it can't be easy for a genuine advertiser to get started on the site knowing many punters attitudes towards profiles with no feedback.

[sarahxxx]

@Nova

To be honest I really do think your missing the point.

It really does not matter to me who you actually are or the reasons that you choose to be anonymous, you keep trying to tell me as though it makes one bit of difference, it doesn't!

If you wish to remain anonymous it means that nobody knows who you are and as such you have no real credibility or trust, especially when ranting.

Ranting is the art of making a lot of noise without making sense. many of the rants I have read recently, from newbies, do not make a lot of sense.

Credibility can be earned in time and by posting, after being an established member / contributor, anonymous members can earn credibility by the way they post and the way they help others with advice.

As you have seen on these and probably on other forums, there have been many "newbies" that just want to rant as soon as they join, have a pop about AW, attack WG's in a derogatory manner and generally bring disruption for the sake of it, they rant on and have been caught out doing this with multi accounts.

Their idea of making contributions is not in the best interest of the forum and they seem to have their own agenda, usually to be negative rather than constructive. going on and on about the same old problems without trying to understand the cause.

To keep ranting about something does not change the problem.

I could very easily start an "idiot Punter" topic and each and every day I and other girls could tell of the idiots we have to deal with by phone, AW messages and the booking system made by punters when they have not got a clue what they are doing. Before long we would have a topic with thousands of posts on it...

Unfortunately doing the above is not going to change those that are idiots, they will still pester and annoy. We understand this so don't bother doing it.

Regards your mention of fake / B&S profiles:

Fake profiles, as I see them, are not a problem. The girl does not exist and you will never meet her, the guys that enjoy these type of profiles are the ones that want wanking fodder, they never have any intention of ever meeting the girl.

Nobody should ever part with money to view photos unless they have established that the girl is real,

B&S: as I have said countless times before, if punters did not hand over money to these girls but walk away they would not survive long with no money and rent to pay, as that will never happen, they will continue to flourish. If I continually bang my head against the wall I will get a headache.

Sarah x x x

[Nova70]

@Nova

To be honest I really do think your missing the point.

It really does not matter to me who you actually are or the reasons that you choose to be anonymous, you keep trying to tell me as though it makes one bit of difference, it doesn't!

If you wish to remain anonymous it means that nobody knows who you are and as such you have no real credibility or trust, especially when ranting.

Ranting is the art of making a lot of noise without making sense. many of the rants I have read recently, from newbies, do not make a lot of sense.

Credibility can be earned in time and by posting, after being an established member / contributor, anonymous members can earn credibility by the way they post and the way they help others with advice.

As you have seen on these and probably on other forums, there have been many "newbies" that just want to rant as soon as they join, have a pop about AW, attack WG's in a derogatory manner and generally bring disruption for the sake of it, they rant on and have been caught out doing this with multi accounts.

Their idea of making contributions is not in the best interest of the forum and they seem to have their own agenda, usually to be negative rather than constructive. going on and on about the same old problems without trying to understand the cause.

To keep ranting about something does not change the problem.

I could very easily start an "idiot Punter" topic and each and every day I and other girls could tell of the idiots we have to deal with by phone, AW messages and the booking system made by punters when they have not got a clue what they are doing. Before long we would have a topic with thousands of posts on it...

Unfortunately doing the above is not going to change those that are idiots, they will still pester and annoy. We understand this so don't bother doing it.

Regards your mention of fake / B&S profiles:

Fake profiles, as I see them, are not a problem. The girl does not exist and you will never meet her, the guys that enjoy these type of profiles are the ones that want wanking fodder, they never have any intention of ever meeting the girl.

Nobody should ever part with money to view photos unless they have established that the girl is real,

B&S: as I have said countless times before, if punters did not hand over money to these girls but walk away they would not survive long with no money and rent to pay, as that will never happen, they will continue to flourish. If I continually bang my head against the wall I will get a headache.

Sarah x x x

I agree with much of what you say Sarah, the point you make about obviously fake profiles is very true, if some people decide they want to waste their credits viewing the private galleries and videos on these profiles that's their choice but I should also point out that AW has other areas for this kind of stuff and that's where those profiles belong not in the areas for genuine service providers. The issue around real service providers who use fake pictures etc is a little more complicated, true I and other experienced punters are less likely to be taken in but I think novice punters can be, it's not a case of those punters returning to see that woman again but rather the case that a succession of naive punters will go along before the profile is exposed, the trouble is it's all to easy for that person to start the process over again with a new profile.

I understand your cautious attitude towards Newbies as your right some do join up with an agenda and do just want to rant, but what constitutes an agenda or a rant differs from person to person. Your view that most punters perhaps men in general are idiots often sounds like a rant, Sarah your an intelligent and articulate woman and I shouldn't need to tell you and suspect I probably don't that making sweeping generalisations about any section of society is not really helpful and under certain circumstances can even be dangerous.

You didn't like some of the things I wrote on another thread concerning a well known punting forum that largely concerns itself with AW, you accused me of ranting and having an agenda well I saw what I wrote as making a contribution on a very popular thread about something I have a great deal of knowledge about, that forum also makes a sweeping generalisation this time about wgs your all "lying cheating prossies" well as an experienced punter I don't agree with that either.

I see myself as someone who is fair minded and even handed of course I want to talk about the issues that concern me as a punter but I'm never going to line up with others just because their also punters as I understand that wgs have plenty of issues concerning our behaviour too, as I said on another thread Sarah IT'S NOT A WAR there are enough people on the outside of our little world who have a twisted view of both punters and wgs and would like to put an end to our careers/enjoyment we don't need to help them out.